• Does anyone have any personal experience with Jow Gar (fighting style, opinions on the system, noteworthy instructors in the US, etc.)?

    I am looking for a new school -- recommendations are especially welcome. I live near DC and have noticed a number of Jow Ga schools.

    Thanks.

    longquan88@hotmail.com


  • Thanks for the info.

    I will check out the schools in the next couple of weeks.


  • Longquan,

    More than ten years ago I trained at thelate Sifu Chin's Kwoon. Sifu Chin already passed away, but there were several sifu teaching, maintaining the Jow Ga tradition in DC China town.

    These Sifu were excellent, most of them are listed in the prior thread. Although I did not train in the style for too long, it left me w/ a very positive lasting impression.

    In short, they train hard and fight hard.

    Check them out and good luck.

    Respect,
    Loquito


  • be careful of contracts, i wish i had more info for you....

    im in NY/from DC originally so when you get a chance, have an apple dumpling at the good Barbra Fritchies for me would ya!

    i miss em so...

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  • raymond wong
    202-234-1826

    located at 2nd and florida avenue

    he is dean chin top student. hoy lee is one of dean chin first students, but they were the same age, now he claims to be dean chins classmate. that is bull****, i was dean chins youngest student and hoy lees classmate. deric mims was dean chins student but he left when hoy and dean chin part company and became hoy student. he is now supporting the claim that hoy makes and he knows this is not true. hon lee is one of sifu oldest students. he left in the early 80s and study at the shaolin temple, he is very good to. reza and ron wheeler are my classmates, raymond finish there training. they are very good to. ron is a champion for a long time in the nacmaf tournaments. rahim is already an instructor when i train there. he is probably the closest to what dean chin teach in those days, very loyal to sifu chin. his school is next door to the republic gardens club (14 and U nw). he is a very qualified teacher. terry robinson (jow hop kuen) is one of raymond students, but i grew up with him. i was his partner when he starts that school in 93. he have an isshin ryu background, and he mixed it. many of my jow ga family do not like it, but check him out, you might like his style--301-565-9325.

    if you want to fight, go to raymond or ron, or terry. if you want forms, go to deric, but raymonds boys has much stronger forms, but raymond will make you fight. all the others are very good, but raymond wong is the best of all of them.

    richard chin in ny: in 1991 when chan man cheung came to DC. he said that richard chin brother study with him for 6 months (he thinks) not richard chin. he only learned the first form subduing small tiger. there are more than 30 in the jow biu branch. he told us that richard is not authorize to teach jow ga, but he told us to accept him as family anyway. richard chin top students were there. he made this comment at dinner at tony cheng seafood restaurant, hon lee translated. ALL the jow ga students heard it with there own ears.

    by the way, he also ranks the jow ga men in the u.s:
    1. hoy lee (as dean chin oldest studnet)
    2. raymond wong (dean chin closest student)
    3. dean chins students that stay with dean chin (ron, hon, rahim, reza, me, and some others)
    4. dean chin students that left with hoy (deric mims, eugene mackie, they are the only one left teaching)


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  • Jow Gar is a combination of hung Gar & Choy gar. They say hung Gar hands with Choy Gar legs.
    Be wary because there are different versions of Jow Gar due to the fact that there were 5 brothers with 5 different versions. A man by the name of Richard Chin used to teach Jow Gar which seemed impressive, but it depends on what you want.
    Check out their credibility first.


  • There is a school Called Wong's Kung Fu Academy (not sure of the rest of the name other than Wong). Seen many of their students at tournaments. They look very solid. Met a few Jow Ga people, They all had the real thing. Good luck!!!


  • Sei Ping Dai Ma;

    That would be Raymond Wong, and his guys are very skilled..

    Peace

    Je Lei Sifu http://216.219.234.88/forum/roundtable/cool.gif


  • I have heard about a jow gar connexion in vietnam. Does anyone have any information about that? Or is there any web site on the subject?

    cheers


  • Longquan

    I may be able to help you in you quest for finding out information on the Jow Ga system. I live in the Washington, DC metro area & do not study the Jow Ga system but have meet some of there students who were all good people. Jow Ga is sometimes reffered to as HUNG TAO CHOY MEI (head of Hung, tail of Choy). The system was founded by Jow Lung and contains techniques from Northern & Southern styles. The current Si-Gung I beleive is Chan Man Cheung of Hong Kong (who I heard is very good). There are a several Sifus in the Washington, DC metro area teaching Jow Ga.

    1. Sifu Raymong Wong (as Je Lei Sifu, Sai Ping Dai Ma & SLee said)I'm not sure were the school is know it used to be located on 2nd or 6th Streets, NW DC. However you can vist there URL at www.wongjowgakungfu.com (http://www.wongjowgakungfu.com) the site is not completed however you should be able to contact them thru email.

    2. Sifu Deric Mims - Jow Ga Kung Fu Association, Langley Park, MD

    3. Sifu Abdur-Rahim Muhammad - Hung Tao Choy Mei Kung Fu Academy, Washington, DC

    4. Jow Hop Kuen Gung Fu Academy, Silver Spring, MD

    5. Sifu Hoy K Lee - Yorktown, VA

    6. Sifu Ron Wheeler - I think located in Lanham, MD

    7. Sifu Hon Lee & Sifu Reza Momenan - Jow Ga Shaolin Institute, Springfield, VA & at NIH located in Bethesda, MD

    This is just a breif listing I'm sure there are others. You can look up telephone # and address in the DC/MD yellow pages. Also look up Jow Ga on the Web and see what you get. My personal advise is for you to take your time and talk to everyone you can to get the best information and make your decision.

    Good Luck in your search.

    HungFist


  • I have to agree about Wong's Kung Fu Academy. Their students are solid as they get. Very impressive display at tournaments.

    Check them out first thing.

    Peace







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