• Hi Guys

    Wonder if anyone can help with my question. I found something on the Internet, developed by a guy named Aaron. It give a rough idea about what level people are at if they can do certain things in Excel. It categories people into Novice, Intermediate, Advanced, Expert and Guru.

    Does anyone know if any exist for the other apps within office like, Word, Access, PowerPoint etc etc

    The link that I have for Excel's one is: Http://www.xl-logic.com/user_scale.html

    Kindest Regards

    Peter

    :tophat:


  • Hi Dreamboat.

    I fully understand that paying jobs come first, I wasn't pushing for this to be done and do value your experience and knowledge.

    Thanks greatly in advance for your time

    Kindest Regards

    Peter


  • Yes...unfortunately, paying jobs are taking precedence.

    If anybody wants to come up with questions, answers, and the level they think they are, I'll be happy to take 'em. Put 'em in an Excel workbook with Qs in column A, As in Column B, and difficulty level (1, 2, or 3) in column C, and email 'em. :) anne@piersontech.com

    With Suat's help, I've already got a database to put them in.


  • Hi All

    Has there been any development of this!

    Kindest Regards

    Peter


  • I've been following this thread with interest.

    Without meaning to be pushy, any progress yet?


  • I could likely write them for you.
    Do you need them immediately?
    Then we'll make them a part of this website too.


  • Interesting Post!

    Very subjective thing to judge.

    As Aaron points out, this is just his opinion (and a very reasonable one too).

    Equally as problematic as a potential employees opinion of his/her office skills is the understanding of the skill level required by the employer.

    I frequently see jobs advertised which require excellent, expert, outstanding etc knowledge of excel/oulook/word - but the job description requires a level of understanding many times less than that (subjectively of course).

    Most times the person setting the criteria for skill level has no idea what they are asking about. Its a - "If they know less than me, they are a beginner. If they know more than me, they are a Geek!" mentality.

    So, yes I would love to see such tests devised and applied to both the employee and the job description/requirements.

    If it helps with setting the benchmarks, I believe that the requirements set for MSOffice Master Trainer would place the candidate in the Advanced User category. Experts could do all that plus have a very solid grounding in VBA. This is maybe a little harsher than Aarons criteria.
    Gurus - well they are out there, the Greens, Walkenbachs & Bebans (and many others - but not too many). It takes a long time and a huge quantity of experience and hard work to get there.

    Regards
    Weasel


  • I would prefer something free, and downloadable. To give you an idea on what I am roughly looking take a look at the link that i included in my first posting?

    Kind Regards

    Peter


  • Thanks for that. Sorry didn't really explain myself. It is something that we are trying to implement when hiring new staff to guage where their IT skills are at, possibly used at point of interview or the the identifcation of training needs.

    Kind Regards

    Peter


  • Hi dreamboat

    Thanks for your note. I think so many people would find that useful, either or both of your suggestions. Not sure if you have seen the example of excel from my link, but really, it just needs to be simple.

    In my experience, people claim to be able to do a lot of things, and I guess that this is not always the case, I spend a great deal of time supporting them, which removes me from my other tasks.

    I just felt that if the people conducting the interviews had some idea, and what skills constitutes what level they are at would help make better decisions.

    What ever you feel happy with providing would be great.

    Kindest Regards

    Peter


  • need something free?
    or just downloadable?


  • try Brainbench (http://brainbench.com/xml/bb/homepage.xml)
    never taken a test myself, but I've deffy heard of them.


  • Frankly, I almost think I'd rather write simple tests with maybe 20 or 30 questions or so...hmmm


  • Hi

    Good points raised. I think DreamBoat is looking into this and perhaps putting something together, which you may find useful aswell.

    Kind Regards

    Peter







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